>> hello, everybody, this is al jazeera america. live from new york city. >> just ahead. >> war zone, in that catastrophic explosion in northeast china the death toll has gone way up. and now authorities are scrambling to protect residents from the environmental dangers. >> live to tell, forced by isil into sexual slavery, the survivors women and children, are speaking out. >> going home. >> i haven't been there in almost 20 years. >> our antonio moore row returns to cube pa where he was born, and reports on the
fast moving changes. he will injoe us live from havana. plus, paying to plane, from pbs to hbo, sesame street moves to a new neighborhood, with kermit and the gang learning the abc's, of pay tv. we begin this hour, where there has been a dramatic rise in the death toll from two fiery warehouse explosions officials now report at least 50 people were killed and a dozens of others are missing. we are getting our first aerial look at the immediate aftermath, this video was reported by a drone. the huge blast came at a crucial asian sea port used by several person countries the facility contained hazardous chemicals and shock waves from the explosion
officials estimate the number of people injured now stands at more than 700. at this hour, the chinese government is trying to assess environmental dangers to the region, and on that count, the fears are growing. adrian brown reports. >> here in the port city, one of china's most important hubs with the population of more than 15 million people, there are still many more questions than answers today. we still don't know for sure, mr. the air of the people of the city are breathing in is safe or not. the government insists that it is. it says there are no traces of cyanide in the air, even though we node the company where these chemicals had been stored had in the past been soaring cyanide in it's warehouse. now behind me. >> you can see evidence of the destruction.
>> we have some two-kilometers awayi from the epicenter of those blasts and yet you can see the devastation is complete. some 6,000 people have been evacuated from their homes. they have spent the night in temporary accommodation, in tents and also in rah local school. we know this morning that some 50 people are now confirmed dead. there are 71 people seriously injured 17 of the dead we know are fireman. there's been a lot of comment on social media, about why the fireman were so young, and whether they were adequately trained to deal with a chemical disaster, on this scale. sadly, chemical accidents like this are not uncommon, during the past five months there has been one serious
chemical incident every month. so that, of course, is focused attention once more on china's safety, it's industrial safety. there is a pattern, because as rapid economic development has happened you are seeing factories being built closer and closer to residential areas. 15 years ago, the area where i am standing now would have been just patty fields now it is a major industrial zone, very close to residential areas. what is doing to happen, well, people as i say, are demanding answers. we still don't know how this disaster happened, and we still don't know why, dangerous chemicals were stored so close to a residential area. but china's government is watching closely. because they worry about this, because they know that the stress, anxiety, can very quickly lead to the one thing it fears most, which is anger, on a mass scale.
rick, more than 50 killed 700 injured in this huge explosion in northeast china, can something on that scale happen here in the united states. >> absolutely. if it is in the right city, and many big city have several plants overlapping in crowded areas in industrial areas. so we estimate based on reports by the chemical industry, two epa, that about 110 million americans live in what is call add vulnerability zone. >> are they any less vulnerable than they were a few years ago after that explosion, the chemical incident in west texas, 15 people were killed, where safeguards put in place after that. >> nothing really significant
has been done. the president did issue an executive order, president obama issues it two years ago august 1st. directing federal agencies to require facilities to upgrade and when you are talking about arson, or a deliberate attack, it can cause pure havoc around these, right. >> as long as they are used that's correct. some sort of malfunction, or human error, or even a sabotage or terrorism. can easily leverage an event. >> the wrights is generally safer than china? >> well, one would hope so, given the population density, perhapses. but it is certainly no comfort to communities from houston to l.a., to new jersey, philadelphia, miami, where these facilities are in
the city orb next to it, endanger like i said, about 460 put 160 -- each put 1 million americans at risk, so this is a global problem. it is a global economy, and until we modernize, a greener and safer technology, yes, we will be ever presence rick, thank you for joining us. >> happy to help, thank you. >> now, to the fall out from the toxic spill from a gold mine in colorado, the navajo nation has said it will sue the epa after millions of gallons of contaminants leaked into waterways today the head of the epa many et with the navajo nation. allen is on the banks of the river in farmington new mexico with the later, allen. >> describing the actions of
the federal government, and the navajo tribe, as cooperative. and their partners working through these various challenges. partners that understand that sometime in the future they are likely top opponents in court. that's the future. the immediate concerns the ever the tribe and the epa, water, the quality and available. >> continues her visit to the region eight days after the contaminanted the san juan rivers. she tours part of the navajo reservation, with tribal president, and other leaders. and says the tribe and agency are partners have a good working relationship, despite navajo threats to sue over the spill. the epa is not unfamiliar with litigation, but frankly, none of that was in the discussion. and we lope to continue to pilled a relationship, with
the new president we expend a lot of time, they are full partners right now in terms of being able to samp. >> people living nearby not to use the water for crops. animals or drinking. it is their livelihood, their money, their way of life. and the live stock, we have to go in hot water 20 miles away for them to get water. >> we found eagle horse chief and her granddaughter at a roadside stand, not far from the formation, that gives the town it's name. promises from the e.p.a. rings hollow here. >> confident of the federal government. >> that's right. >> you want me to use my language? no, they are not going to.
until testing shows con tom nation, has eased. >> the epa has said they expect test results very soon from the lower stretch, and the upper stretches of the san juan and down into lake powell, we don't know what soon means we didn't give a time line for that, but they will get that information, that testing information, and then give that to local authorities who can make decisions about exactly how to deal with water in this area. david. >> allen f shoff legislator, thank you very much. as allen mentioned the toxic fleury is now flowing through waterways and headed to lake powell on the utah arizona boarder, lake powell is one of the nation's largest reservoirs. science and technology correspondent is at lake
powell tonight, put this spill in perspective as we think about the other rinks to the water supply in the west. and for the national park service, are preparing for what they say will be a very small and diluted quantity of these. that came out of this spill. they are setting up traps and water test tag silties all around this lake but when you talk to veterans it is surprising the way they react. it is hot the first time this kind of thing has happened. sometimes there have been bigger spills that have come down. we are pleased we have a good base line of what is the contaminant now.
the one beyond the damn that you can see here. they supply all of the water that basically a big huge chunks of the western united states. need without them, las vegas would not exist, los angeles would haven't the water that it needs. so the people here are really used to having to put on an incredible fight. they are just under assault in a way by climate change, the lake here is 100 feet lower than it normally is, there's no sign that it will come pack. the let ramp launches don't
even reach the water, so water is a huge problem. so this pill almost insult to injury. and the injury is just keep. cooing and coming. >> given that crucial role that they play in terms of the west, and the water supply out there, are officials reconsidering anything preventive measure they can do given their depends on lake powell and lake immediate. >> you would assume there would be a crisis management system going on here, just with the muscles alone, which can clog up the water work which is provides power to huge swaths all of that, you would think that they would have people able to decontaminate the boats. we did the math on the 28 people available to do those inspections, to do that kind of contamination, they would have to decontaminate ten boat as day, seven day as
week, all year long to come anywhere close they are screeched too thin, so instead it is about education. >> at lake powell in arizona, jake, thank you. >> former cuban president says the united states owes cuba millions of dollars in damages caused by the half century trade embargo. he is speaking out as cub boo prepares for a visit. tomorrow's flag raising ceremony will be relatively brief, but it reaches the end of a long diplomatic freeze. more were effected by or
divided by thenings thes, our own an tore owe morrow knows the story well. he is back there tonight, antonio, how does it feel to be there. >> it is good to be here, david, and according to the u.s. census bureau, there are more than 2 million cuban americans in the united states. that is almost the population of havana, almost a fit of the population of the whole island, a national poll in the u.s. showed that most cuban american as slight majority -- what happens so u.s. cuba relations is deeply personal for most, as is returning to the place where we were important. it was for me. here in the old section along the bay, and we are heading to the house where i lived as a baby, and i haven't been there in almost 20 years.
coffering the ceremonyny gave me the rare chance to return. and i still know one persons that livers in the house, she works with my family and never left. >> she homicide been taking care of this house. the government decided to subdivide it into apartments. and there are 11 parts here. she is telling me that these days they maintain the house, the government is involved they want to keep it up because it is a historic house, and they want to make sure because it is in the tourist area, that it shows off havana, in a positive liability. the daughter offered to give me a tour.
for decades the house decayed the salt from the sea air taking it's toll. it is breaking down, falling apart. and this was a stain classed window and i guess some of the molding is still left, as you can see most of it hassle facilitien apart. ironically, even though it is stained it is still beautiful. maybe it height be able to be cleaned some day. >> we ran into another tenant. >> turns out he lives in my room, when i was a child. he is going to show us. >> a room i hadn't seen since i was two. >> so i guess this is where i slept as a child.
only then did he learn who i was. the i pray a lot for your family. he said, whispering come back. before leaving we shared family photos. he was most excited to see a picture of my mom in miami. 55 years apart, despite living little more than 200 miles away. david, i am very lucky in that i have been able to come pack three times now, as a journalist, i have never been to the room where i had lived as a toddler, it was quite a moment for me. i do hope some day to bring my family here to see the place i come from. >> antonio, was it tough going back and seeing the room that you lived in? i am only imagine the emotions that would flood
through somebody. >> it was emotional, but i have been back a couple of times. the first time back in 1998, was a much harder and more difficult -- it was more difficult time for me. it was very emotional, it is emotional to be here again. >> there's been some controversy over cuban disdon'ts what can we expect to see? >> we don't know. they are not inviting to the flag raising ceremony, so we don't know what will happen with that. there has been very harsh credit similar of the state department for not inviting them. marco rubio in particular has. very vocal. say it is a new low for the administration, and saying it is pathetic, the way they are treating the prodemocracy activists because human
rights continues to be a significant issue here, and does dents have continued to be relations. antonio reporting, thank you very much, and tomorrow night everybody antonio will be anchoring in havana with a wrap of the days evented as the flag is raised over the embassy, our special report, the u.s. and cuba, a new era, airs at 9:00 eastern time right here on al jazeera america. >> up next, sex-slavery within isil we will explore what the horrifying crimes say about the group's beliefs. plus, damage control, the clinton campaign six page memo to donors and supporters.
in iraq, isil is claiming responsibility for a truck bomb today that ripped through a crowded market. the early morning blast killed at least 67 people. it said it intentionally gathered the shia gathering place, and has vowed more attacks. more than 150 people were wounded. the ice says isil likely used mustard gas on an attack on kurdish forces. the wall street your honor narcotic reports that the gas possibly came from syria or iraq.
intelligence has previously accused of isil of using chlorine gas. the new york times is now detailing the brutal practice of sexual slavery, the actions are organized and include the systemic rape of nonmuslim women and girls, the times article that says the koran. the story goes on to say the practices used a as recruiting tool to attract deeply conservative muslim men. more than 20 womenned were interviews for this report. the executive director in new york, thank you for joining us. we know that isil is using sexual violence as a tactic, how are they getting away with it. >> absolutely using rape on sexual slavery, it's not the first time, we know it has
happened in bosnia, rwanda, and other places and isis is absolutely enganging in practices are contrary to anything that is islam stands for. and the minorities we must stand with and by. is there anything that comes close to the interpretation that isil is using. >> we have to remember that islam was created in a premodern era where slavery was a universal system. this isn't the only faith that has these type of mentions but our prophet came to free slaves. and went as far to say that we are not to call anyone my slave, we are all the slaves of god. and we have seen story after story of encouraging senior members of arab tries to mary, to show that no one is above anybodien else. to look at isis and even say anything they are doing is anywhere close to his lack,
and to look at the 1.7 billion muslims in the world not enganging in these practices and to remember that slavery is prohibited in every muslim country except under the leadership of isis. >> to use this as arecruiting tool, to get conservative muslim men, you would think they would be educated enough to know this doesn't have anything to do with islam, and yes, sir it is clearly serving a purpose. >> it has nothing to do with islam. if you are conservative, you are not enganging in sexual activity and want to, this is a way to do it. let's look at human trafficking bro themes in many countries we hear these stories of young sex slaves including in places of united states america. we should separate that from islam. these are sick people. they have alienation from community, we have to get to the root of the problem, and it has nothing to do with
islam. >> as far as the beheadings, i seems like they are coming one new ways to demonstrate their brutality. 12 apostates being blown up over a bomb in the ground, what do you make of that. >> isis is exactly what they want, they want to intimidate the world community, they want to show power. they are sophisticatorred on social media, and we are giving them the platform, and they are using it to show the power they have to recruit people. where they feel like -- they might be a minority. again, isis is an on hour rent group, and they are a cancer in the middle east but across the world. thank you for having me. we will have much more, up next, puerto rico's urgent
debt, severe drought andg forced water outages and is looking to washington for help. monster storm, climate signtists say a possible el nino is forming in the pacific, and could bring and may ham to california. under pressure over her private emails and losing drowned, presumed front runner is urging them not to panic. plus, sesame street, the beloved children's program is relocated to hbo. the move from free to pay tv could have big implications the ever the show, and for the broad cast industry.
this is not been a good summer for puerto rico. the u.s. territory is having problems paying the interest on $72 billion in debt. and now, the ilan is running out of water. a severe drought is hitting puerto rico hard, and in a letter the department of defense, officials are practically begging washington for help. jonathon bets reports. >> with water cut off to his house, antonio must go find pit p and then haul it back home. >> for them to flush toilets, or do the laundry, buckets must be fetched from the back of their suv. it is a lot of work, he says. >> puerto rico is so dry, the.has simply cut off the tap watt tore 400,000 homes. for every day it does run, they must get by for two days without it. >> it is almost getting close to the most extreme drought
event that puerto rico has ever experienced. >> 65% of the island is facing an extreme drought. from the air you can see the full effects. less than two inches of rain fell last month rivers are now barely streams. and san juan's main water source, is down 25 feet. at local water office, angry customers arrive with bills and questions. >> his bill is seven times higher than normal. even though the water runs only one every three days. >> i just used the bathroom that's it. >> many don't blame mother nature as much as the government for decades of neglect. >> because we have not done good. in planning, and managing and we are paying the ever that. >> lakes haven't been dredged for years so they don't hold as much, and most of the water is wastes lost because of old leaky pipes. >> almost 60% of the water
through this system is lost. within the pipeline and that level is not sun epable for puerto rico. >> but the island already facing a crippling debt, they say repairs are a long way off. many stock pile water when the taps do work. geronimo buys it from private companies just to keep his laundromat running. >> if we can get the supply of water we need. >> that's a big if, for many learning to li without water. jonathon, al jazeera, san juan, puerto rico. >> in los angeles the latest effort to protect that city's water supply involving millions of things called shade balls. the concept is simple, you put black plastic balls in the top of the reservoir to block out the sunlight, that helps protect the drinking water from contaminates and evaporation. it includes 96 million ball
and is expected to save the city $250 million. there is a new warning for the national weather service about a strengthening el nino system that could bring the strongest storm in a situation. and says the drought stricten west coast could be hit hard. the system warming ocean waters could trigger massive storms this winter, in california would mean heavy rains floods and catastrophic mudslides. a senior follow ated woo institute for the environment, he joins us this evening from mountain view, california, noah, how unprecedented is this storm that's forming? >> well, ill nino is warming the tropical pacific, and the atmosphere around the word. and so we are seeing right
now, in the tropical pacific, are levels of el nino, conditions that are comparable to what we saw in 1997. which was the most extreme el nino on record. >> and people are used to el nino every five years but what happens when you have a drought like what california suffered through now, and then you have a dillon of rain, and heavy storms what does that do? well, in california we have been in a severe drought, and we have lost out on a lot of precipitation. it would take two to three times the normal precipitation, so it is unlikely that we will break it this year. and in fact, if we had a single rainmy season that was enough to break the drought, we would have big problems with excess rainfall, and run off. so if then cans hold, and we
do end up getting a year like we got in 1997, 98, californias are likely to be in the unenviable position of dealing with flooding and drought. >> is it made worse because given the drought, there's not enough vegetation to hold water in the soil so you get this massive run out? run off that you might not otherwise. >> well, the soils are dry. we know that there are record levels and that's what helps to define the drought. we are seeing a lot of die off vegetation, this summer we have another couple of months until the normal rainy season begins, so conditions are likely to be drier when the rainy season does begin, whenever that is, and then we will see what happens in terms of this rainy season. >> how much of this is remitted to climate change. >> well, we have seen in our research, when we look back over the record in california, it's very clear that california has warmed
and it is very clear, that warming of california has increased the odds that we experienced warm conditions, when we have a bad luck situation, where we have low rainfall like this. we know the company nation of low rainfall and snow fall is what creates severe drought, so we have very high confidence that global warming has increased the odds of the conditions. the conditions that are making this drought now. >> and increasing the vulnerable. noah, an associate professor at stanford, thank you. now, to the u.s. presidential campaign, and the race for the domic nomination, supporters of hillary clinton are getting increasingly anxious, her poll numbers are getting worse, the federal investigations of over email practices are mounting and rival candidates are gaining ground. facen dropping approval rates and the news that the fbi is now examining her private email server, hillary clinton
campaign is urging democrats not toen paic. in a six day memo, clinton manager said, winning campaigns have a plan and stick to it in good times and bad. president obama endures significant pressure in 2007 to abandon iowa and ultimately prevailed. >> i will be the young ohs woman president in the history of the united states. >> ultimately prevailing though, is not what the clinton team in this race had in mind. and with one poll suggestions she is now trailing bernie sanders in new hampshire the odds of a long fight for the nomination are growing. he has been getting huge crowds. >> that this great nation, belongs to all of us, not just a hand full of billionaires. another obstacle could come from joe biden, biden has
toad friends he is now thinking about joining the nomination ranks. his entry could siphon off some of the establishment support, there by improving the chances to the relative outsider bernie sanders. against all of this, is the clinton email investigation. the justice department and fbi are trying to determine if clinton's actions prompted any classified information to be mishandled. in march, she insisted she acted legally. >> but federal investigators say an examination of just a fraction of her emails shows there was classified material. and this week, she agreed to give up her private computer server so the fbi can conduct a comprehensive review. the clinton campaign memo instead of offering plans to overcome this, bashing republicans. it's difficult to overstate how damaged the gop brand is, as a majority of americans view the party as out of
date, and out of touch. turning attention could help the front runner, all though as her own campaign acknowledges many are nervous about hillary clinton and believe her challenges may get worse. >> a professor of campaign management, dominic cartser a political journalist let's start with you, it is never good when a candidate is essentially under investigation by the fbi, how much does it hurt the. >> it is hurting and we should say she is not under investigation, and the new york times has stepped back on that. but certainly oil does not hip. they waited far too long to voluntarily turn the server over. this started in march with the new york times report, it is now august.
it hasn't hurt her as much in the polls. >> but the trustworthy is about 60% when you have the fb, i look at you, it doesn't seem like there a a good outcome. either they don't find inning, or they do find, a classified stamped email and she is toast. >> let's remember, it is not like mrs. clinton started zero from this. there's also a history, in terms of her negative numbers of people do not trust the clintons. it is a perception, and a theory of where there's smoke there are fire. and maybe it won't hurt her in the general election, but it has opened the door, and think about this, to joe biden. joe biden we thought he was just going to retire, eight years as vice president, and because of this issue it is opening the door where he could decide to run. >> how much of this hurting hillary clinton has to do
with the fact that she is seen as somebody who is part of the establishment. i don't think female for the ordinary voter that's not what i am seeing i think people are looking at her record in iraq, seeing her as part of the 1%, as part of the clinton dynasty, and people are tired of the same old names. i think bernie sanders is gaining drowned with my generation. black people, immigrant communities, he is saying the right things the things we want to hear, and the things that hillary is not saying in the same way. so i would watch out for him. >> to her point, a lot of people say oh, hillary clinton she has a leg up when it comes to the african-american community, but bernie sanders has been the one talking about racial justice, while hillary clinton is playing defense. >> well, senator sanders i don't want to rain on his parade, but i think pack to 1998, i have seen these crowds before, and going back
to 88 when jesse jackson, who had no shot of winning the nomination, just like senator sanders he does not have an opportunity really to win the nomination, he is able to energize a lot of americans but we have seen this before. it doesn't necessarily mean anything. >> this particular year, we are seeing it also on the republican side, because there's donald trump, a man a lot of people think has no chance of winning the nomination yet he is leading in thele pros again. >> absolutely. and i think bernie sanders is equivalent on the left, and we have seen, what happened after the republican debate, all three of the people who have never been elected to public office, have never served the american people donald trump and also ben carson, surging in the polls. if you are in a gov nor, in the senate, if you have been in government, you are not getting a bump out of that, and the same thing with bernie sanders. what we are seeing here is a
mirror image, of people really disinstructionful, really frustrating with politicians and politics and really trying to make that case. people are angry, and that makes sense, but as dominic mentions it is highly unlikely they will win the nomination, their only shot would be to run as an independent, and look at ross perreault, it doesn't work. i am not sure i agree with you, i will show you all the latest ad that donald trump put up online. but watch this. >> while the world has been burning he has been having fun, is that ad effective. >> it is absolutely effective
p betive man credit when it is due, this moves people, people are seeing the world burning, they are criticizing president obama for his lack of intervention, when this all started four years ago. and things like this with people. every time you open social media it is there. >> your thoughts in. >> i have to say, the number one determining factor if you win a major party nomination, is if you have support of the establishment, whatever anybody thinks historically, that is the case. and so that is why we have seen this play over and over. you can look back to the eight mean hundreds when you see william jennings, you comfort win the nomination and win the presidency this way. >> haven't we also seen some candidates come awfully close to running this outsider message. john mccain, he wins the new
hampshire primary. had it not been for some really nasty campaign stuff, john mccain may have beaten george w bush, and then perhaps mccain is the nominee. but john mccain came close. >> yes, sir, history is on the professor's side. chances are he won't win the nomination, but i am telling you don't sleep on this guy, he is connecting in ways that have pundits scratching their heads. he has touched in an anti-establishment sentiments, and think about this for a second. he wins iowa, hypothetical, comes to new hampshire and wins there. who will stop him then? >> i think that's exactly the motto, when you look at bernie sanders on the democratic side, he is winning new hampshire now, if he pulls enough in iowa, and if joe biden is in the race siphoning off the support from hillary clinton, it seems like the odds of bernie
sanders pull a upset increase? >> i wouldn't underestimate the people you are writing off, when you talk politics they write off young new americans lookenning at muslim communities. people that often feel office troy sized. we are not all about the bushes and the clintons and all this antipolice brutality, there is a ground swell of people that are out there looking for progressive politics. geneny history has told us that negative ads can be effective, is that the main test for donald trump? when the establishment gained up on them.
what has he been able to do, they are not depend on the pray editional media, they are not dependent on their parties they are reaching people in other ways. this is the first time we have seen social media play a role in this way, and they have used it successfully. they aren't going to get the nomination, but it is a fascinating story. >> you were with me on that night. thank you so much, appreciate it. up next, but you might have to pay extra if you want your kids to watch new episodes of sesame street.
like kerosene for cooking. libby casey is here with more. >> david, it started up based in nigeria is behind what appears to be an amazing product. a bio fuel that is making it's way into households. it burns cleaner than others like wood or coal burning and for homeowners can help clear the air they breathe. investors are taking note. >> we can create a warm that is clean. that has helped my thinking in which ways i want to invest, and where i want to put my money to work. >> in our next hour, how this green fuel burns which makes it friendly, and the very simple ingredients used to create it one of which is a common man made byproduct. >> hbo brought us shows like the wire, the a plan knows
and true detective, and now they are adding a new show, sesame street. one that says will forever change a children's classic. >> a familiar theme, with a new destination. after 45 years sesame street ising paing up and moving from opinions, to a new trio, hbo. where viewers will get an education in subscription. sesame workshop has sign add five year deal with the premium cable channel, that means new episode episodes wilr exclusively on hbo for nine months before they become available free on pbs. for generations of parents and kids sesame street and pbs were inseparable, be uh the new aaronment is a reflex of changing view habits.
two kids of children now watch sesame street on dehaan, and not on pbs. and historically only 10% of the budget was covered by pbs. the average cost of one season of sesame street, was about $16 million. so the difference was made up from a been nation of grants, donations and licensing revenue which makes up about 40% of the overall budget. >> screening and on demand services have cut into dvd sales resulting in pressure on the not for profit to cut pack on the number of episodes it produces each year. the newarkment will mean 35 fresh episode as year up from 18, and additional new programming for children. a lot of people in social media are reacting with disappointment. i never thought i'd see the
day where sesame street would gentrify and become a gated community. joining us to discuss the deal is brian sign berg. brian, it seems strange to imagine elmo one hour, and the game of thrones the next. >> for hbo they are in a middle of a big row with netflix, and others. sesame street is content they want to have and it will bring viewers on. >> and for sesame street they only get something like 10% of their funding currently from pbs, the rest has to come from licensing. under this they get direct payments? >> that's right, the dvd is falling a. a kid that says we want to watch elmo at a certain time. >> and sesame street was failing because they had the departure of dvd revenue. it was a big part of their
equation. >> is is there something sob said of this gritty, always had this reputation, even if you lived in an urban jungle all you had to do was have a television at home, and there was something educational for you, now crow have to pay for the subscription to hbo. >> well, they will show up on hbs nine months later. they would not do a deal unless pbs still gets the program. they will have to wait or see it on youtube. >> and what about the format? they are announcing they are going from an hour to half an hour. >> they feel this is the new formal for attention diverted kids. they only have the capacity for half an hour. >> but there are certain segments i know, that two-year-olds and three-year-olds will do. >> i am told they will keep the opening street story, and
perhaps elmo sticking around, more -- children segment and fewer of them, but they say it will be more like a magazine format, but i agree with you, something has to give. >> is something going to give involving pbs, is it dead? >> i don't know about that, but there's curious george, and cat in the hat, tiger's neighborhood, i think what they are saying is this one of our properties not the property any more. >> when we think about hbo, hbo makes a ton of money, they have some of the most successful shows why is it in their benefit to go into children's shows? is it an untapped market for them? well, they hadding fromle rock over the years, what is happening here as much as we may watch a dvd show, and not watch life, our kids want it when they want it.
so i think every tv operation has to play into this audience that is coming up. >> he is the television editor for variety, thank you for coming. >> thank you. >> and that is our news for this hour. thank you for watching. the news continues next with libby casey, remember, you can always get the news any time of day or night on aljazeera.com. "sesame street"
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